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SNP to seek Scottish independence talks even if party loses 20 MPs at next general election | Politics News

SNP leader Humza Yousaf has rejected suggestions it would be “ludicrous” for his party to open formal independence negotiations, even if he loses 20 seats at the next general election. 

Ahead of the SNP’s annual conference, Mr Yousaf also told Sky News it is difficult for his party to make progress “the longer” the major police investigation examining its funding and finances continues.

The SNP’s independence strategy has chopped and changed in the past 12 months as the party became engulfed in unprecedented scandal.

Nicola Sturgeon previously pledged to turn the next general election into a “de facto” referendum. She suggested winning more than 50% of the votes in Scotland would be the same as a result to begin talks over Scotland’s exit from the UK.

Ms Sturgeon quit as leader in February before being arrested as part of the police probe. She was released without charge and insists she is “certain” she has done nothing wrong.

Her replacement, Mr Yousaf, later proposed that winning “most” seats in 2024 would open the door to Downing Street negotiations.

It has now been suggested SNP activists could vote at their Aberdeen conference this weekend to switch the wording to a “majority” of seats.

Mr Yousaf told Sky News he is “open” to the tweak, which would set the bar at 29 seats. The SNP secured 48 MPs in 2019.

During an interview in Glasgow, Scotland’s first minister was questioned whether it was credible to suggest a scenario where the nationalists secure just one more seat than Labour at the 2024 election, and that equating to a clear mandate to trigger independence discussions.

He was asked about a hypothetical situation where Labour could get 23 seats and the SNP drops from 48 seats to 24.

The first minister replied: “If you win the most seats, you tend to be the winner of the general election.

“If you are denying the Scottish people the choice over their own future then the next election, we can test that proposition. In a general election, the rules are pretty simple – those that win most seats, win the general election.”

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Mr Yousaf said he would seriously consider a switch to the majority of seats when party members finalise the plan on Sunday.

He added: “Let’s remember before the referendum in 2014 we were at six seats so actually that number will undoubtedly fluctuate election to election.”

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Police Scotland told Sky News that the SNP finance investigation – dubbed Operation Branchform – is continuing.

The Crown Office, the body which will decide whether or not to charge individuals, said it has received no complaints about the probe so far.

Mr Yousaf agreed the police probe has “hurt” the SNP.

He said: “Of course it has… the longer the police investigation goes on, then the more difficult it is going to be for the party.

“I respect the police has to take whatever time it feels necessary.”

Scottish independence will create partnership of equals in the UK, Sturgeon to say | UK News

Scottish independence will create a partnership of equals in the UK, Nicola Sturgeon will say in her speech to the SNP conference in Aberdeen today.

Ms Sturgeon will bring the three-day event to a close by telling delegates that the nations of the UK and the Republic of Ireland, will “always be the closest of friends, always be family”.

She is expected to say: “Scottish independence can reset and renew the whole notion of nations working together for the common good.

“England, Scotland, Wales, the island of Ireland. We will always be the closest of friends. We will always be family. But we can achieve a better relationship, a true partnership of equals, when we win Scotland’s independence.”

She is also expected to accuse the UK government of “Westminster’s denial of Scottish democracy”.

She will say: “Full frontal attacks on devolution. A basic lack of respect. It is these which are causing tension and fraying the bonds between us.”

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The First Minister was criticised on Sunday for saying to the BBC: “I detest the Tories and everything they stand for.”

Speaking to journalists on Sunday, Ms Sturgeon was asked about any announcements she would make in her speech. She said she will have “more to say” on the cost of living crisis “and a host of other things as well”.

She also rejected claims there was a lack of policy commitments during the conference.

Liz Truss tells Nicola Sturgeon to stop ‘agitating’ for another Scottish independence referendum | Politics News

Liz Truss has said Nicola Sturgeon should focus on Scotland’s domestic issues rather than “agitating” for a second independence referendum.

The Tory leadership frontrunner told a hustings event in Perth on Tuesday she would “not allow” another vote on independence if she becomes prime minister on 5 September.

Protesters gathered outside the city’s concert hall as they shouted “Tories out” and held banners with “Scottish not British” while pushing through barriers in the tensest hustings yet – and the first and only one in Scotland.

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Ms Truss and Ms Sturgeon have been exchanging blows since the favourite to succeed Boris Johnson said it was best to “ignore” the Scottish first minister and her persistent calls for another independence referendum.

The SNP leader hit back, saying that in her limited dealings with Ms Truss, the foreign secretary had seemed most interested in asking her how to get into Vogue magazine.

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Nicola Sturgeon is ‘an attention seeker’

Inside the hall, Ms Truss called herself a “child of the union” as she lived in Paisley as a young girl – and said the Scottish government should improve its record rather than seeking another vote.

The Scottish government is pushing for the decision on whether a referendum can take place to be taken away from Westminster, with the Supreme Court set to rule on the legality of them holding an advisory vote next year.

Ms Truss said: “If I am elected as prime minister, I will not allow another independence referendum.

“At the time of the 2014 referendum, it was agreed by the SNP that it was a once-in-a-generation referendum.

“I believe in politicians keeping their promises, and Nicola Sturgeon should keep her promise.

“What she should do, rather than agitating for another referendum, is deal with the very real issues in Scotland.”

She added that the Scottish government should be dealing with its NHS backlog instead.

Ms Truss’ comments were somewhat overshadowed by questions about a leaked recording in which she said British workers needed “more graft” and lacked the “skill and application” of foreign rivals.

The clip, obtained by The Guardian, was recorded five years ago but emerged ahead of the hustings.

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Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak was less emphatic in his rejection of another independence referendum.

The former chancellor said he accepted the union was “by consent” and he did not think “now or any time in the near future” was the time to consider another vote.

“We live in a union which is, of course, there by consent and by democracy and I accept that, but I just don’t think that anybody thinks that now or any time in the near future is remotely the time to focus on this,” he said.

SNP deputy Westminster leader Kirsten Oswald said the event had been “depressing watching” for people in Scotland and said the candidates were trying to “out-Thatcher one another”.

“The pair repeatedly attempted to tell us tonight what Scotland wants,” she added.

“Scotland has made it clear what it does and doesn’t want by repeatedly rejecting the Tories at the polls and repeatedly voting for independence supporting parties.”